bush strategist and now national journal columnist, maureen dowd. i'll start with you, because now i have this year figured out. either the voters aren't that smart because they're not paying as much attention or you democrats need to stop whining, is that the solution? >> i think the vice president was talking about a particular phenomenon on my side of the aisle which is the left. you have a number of prognosticators saying that the president hasn't been progressive enough and at a time when we have had bold, fundamental change and other issues that have been really hard in this election cycle so i think the vice president had a real message which is you know what happens when democrats don't vote, republicans win. >> it would have been good if he had said that, but he did not say that. it's not really a good idea to blame voters right before an election, because they actually might sit at home instead of going out. >> you said a lot of polling and a lot of focus groups, when you say things like that, do voters stop whining? or you're just not pay